Publishing Goblin's Oracle Dice, 2nd Edition

Publishing Goblin's Oracle Dice, 2nd Edition

The 22nd Lord & Die | Help me decide the 22nd die!
4 months ago
by Publishing Goblin, LLC
Hello everyone!

Before I go too far with the 22nd Lord and all that, let's take a look at one of the final Lords coming in from czarfunkle!

There are just a few Lords you haven't seen-- The Alleyman, The Showman, and.... They Who Hunger.



They Who Hunger preside over the Longings Die, and they know longing intimately. Desire for touch, to be seen, for change, for movement, for anything out of reach. When you wish to know what is missing, what people desire in a reading, you include their die. And when their card comes up? Someone is starved-- but for what? That is the key question, isn't it?

I pushed czarfunkle to the edge with all the hands, but so it goes! I love hands in art, and artists hate to illustrate so many hands! 


The 22nd Lord & Die


So now, what I'm here to ask! Over this week we've seen money come in on the project, but about 2/3rds of backers on here have done their surveys and about 1/3rd of those people included extra add-ons. Considering this in total with how much we have to go in order to hit $300,000, I think we're likely to get about 260,000 before it peters out and we end at most. That's not going to be our 300,000, huh?

But that's okay! I'm including the 22nd die anyways, and we're picking some of the key parts of it together right here, right now.

The 22nd die is the Chaos Die.

In the comments below, I'd like to see your suggestions for two elements of the die! Then I will read these tonight and tomorrow, and on Saturday I will post a poll (or two polls if I can?) for us to vote to the final answers!

Question 1: Who is the Lord of the Chaos Die?
I've had people suggest the darned Happy Squirrel, and I think it could be fun to have a wild chaotic entity made up of parts of various things, or some eldritch horror. But I'm open to anyone's thoughts on who should be the lord of Chaos! In your answers, please feel free to name them with a title (like the other Lords-- instead of Loki for example, The Trickster would work), and explain who they are/how they look! I will take an assortment of these answers from you all to the poll Saturday.

Question 2: What are the die faces of the Chaos Die?
The Fate die of the original set is what I'm thinking about. With faces that make you remove the nearest die, and consider the implications of it missing-- faces that make you re-roll some dice-- faces that make you move the nearest die to the core of the reading-- etc. All in all, it makes changes to the reading, moves dice, and changes meanings. I'd consider a die face that makes you consider the nearest die in its opposite meaning-- or maybe if it's in the core it does that to everything! So many chaotic options. I'd love to see all your ideas. In your answers, I am looking for any number (1-infinity) of die face options. On Saturday, I will do a Google Form poll with the top 15 or so options, so that you can pick multiple when you vote in the end!

Thanks all!

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user avatar image for Anonymous Seagull #1662402
4 months ago

I like Entropy for the Chaos die. Or simply Chaos. But… Entropy is the law of the universe that order tends to change into disorder. Heat tends to move into cool, not the other way around. Energy flows into non-energy. This sparks several ideas for die faces: one that causes a reroll of the die, potentially causing it to knock others about. One that causes rerolls of other dice. One that causes all the dice to remain exactly as they are (absolute zero).

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Vic
4 months ago

I think the closest to literal chaos most people have in their lives is the junk drawer in the kitchen. The Lord of the die would be "The Lord of The Draw" that abides with the chaos sorting and empowering it for when we may eventually need the stuff we have no other place for. Sometimes the draw opens easily sometimes it doesn't sometimes you have to pull the entire thing out to find what you are looking for I was thinking along the lines of 1) face would be the pack of batteries which would super charge the closest die face to them or drain energy depending on if inversion is used. 2) the roll of tape which could be used to seal (reinforce) or heal (remove) the closest die depending on inversion or not as tape can be used secure items to stop them moving or invisibly fix tears to stop them spreading futher 3) takeaway menus this one is about choices we have about where we go to change our fate options to move to a happier outcome however inverted could be indecision caused by to many choices may cause you to stay on your path and not make the change. 4) old keys this one is about letting go of the past why hold onto that which no longer opens doors for you object attachment, sentimentality that holds you in its grip, inverse could be old relationships could bring new opportunities. 5) the Bobby pin regardless of your household demographic, make up or orientation every house will have at least one Bobby pin or kirby grip they just do its a universal truth it does not matter if you have seen it or not it is there. and that is chaos at it essence if this face shows up it flips the meaning of every die on the cloth this is a powerful face. 6) the blank face the unknowable answer this is the equivalent of the wyrd rune or the all our call operators are busy please try again later message on the telephone. If this face is cast encourage the person being read to ground, breathe and try again later

user avatar image for Puckett
4 months ago

It could just be The Drawer, with an open drawer in a dresser or cabinet of some sort.

user avatar image for Ember Lark
4 months ago

Lots of good ideas in comments. Things that resonate with me: 1. Chaos simultaneously doesn't have a gender, while also having all possible and impossible genders. (The Void, Primordial Soup and The moment between dreaming and reality are My Chaos' favorite genders. Your Chaos is likely to be quite different.) 2. Chaos abhors and is in direct opposition to the order of a class system. Chaos could never be a lord or lady, or if forced into the role, would become the darkest versions of themself taking everyone else down in their own unmaking. 3. Chaos isn't a trickster. I LOVE tricksters, but Chaos is the truest state of the universe, the constant beginning and end of life and order. Tricksters are Chaos' servants in that they might take things apart and confuse things for their own ends but everything is going Chaos' way eventually for when there's no one left to make order of things, when tricksters are gone, Chaos will be there. For card ideas, I really like the idea of a mirrorish card - something along the lines of Gerhard Richter's Grey Mirror because as much as a person might try to remove entropy/chaos in their sphere, there will always be clothes to fold and dishes to be done. We can impose order in our lives, for a time, but chaos is tied to us more surely than a shadow and will stay with us until our very cells unspool.

user avatar image for Chloe
4 months ago

I really like the character ideas of the void and primordial soup!

user avatar image for A. Mandible
4 months ago

Ideas for question 2: - Reverse the Energy. Take the two closest dice (or two dice that this die is pointing at, or whatever) and bring them with you while you do something that is somehow the opposite of reading these dice. If you're inside, take them outside with you. If you're sitting down, hold them while you do a few jumping jacks. If you've been chatting enthusiastically with a friend or querent, take the dice and meditate in silence for a minute. When you bring the dice back, reroll them. - Gravity Well. Move (all? some of?) the other dice in the reading closer to this one. Then for good measure, add a die-sized object from outside the reading to the tableau. Interpret that object as if it were a face of whichever die was closest to it before it joined the reading. - Game Over: Continue? Sadly, you will need to insert another quarter to complete this reading. But since there's no convenient coin slot, you can just 'waste' a tiny bit of something valuable... money, time, attention... before you go on. Throw a penny in the trash. Eat a candy you were saving. Turn on the A/C. Wash a dish that was already clean. Recycle an ad without reading it. - Hubris! Take some number of dice in the reading and stack them in a tower on top of this one. Then give the table a nice hard thump to knock the tower down. Any dice that land outside the relevant area are out of the reading; any dice that are still covered by other dice are likewise not considered (but leave them there, it's pretty). Alternately, build the tower on one outstretched hand instead of the table. - No Fate. Flick this die (once) at any other die you want to try to change its face. (If reading for someone else and they're not familiar with the dice, explain this die, then start the reading. They can interrupt to do the die flick anytime later if they don't like what they're hearing.) - Staff Retreat. Sorry, the dice are up to matters of their own at the moment! Please consult a different oracle. Or, if you must read the dice as is, keep in mind that you only have part of their attention. Results might be kind of slipshod. Keep the really clear parts and ignore the rest, the dice were probably phoning it in.

user avatar image for Maryan
4 months ago

Lord names: The Discordian, The Inciter, The Instigator, The Idiot, The Absurd, The Undoing. And of course The Heart of Gold but that's taken! For the die faces, here are some ideas: 1. Move the nearest die off the mat (becomes a Lost Die) 2. "Butterfly (effect)" - change the question you asked for the reading to a randomly generated question - method of generating the question is up to you... use an online random question generator, open a book on your bookshelf to a random page and read until you come to a question (bibliomancy), phone a friend, phone an enemy... whatever. 3. Deliberately misinterpret the nearest die - opposite meaning, perhaps. The name of this die face would be a mispronunciation of the Die Lord's name.... for example, if the Lord was The Discordian, then the die face would be an accordion. Heh. I'll try to think of some more. Dang you're right this is super gimicky!

user avatar image for Anonymous Cockatiel #1710650
4 months ago

Question 1: Who is the Lord of the Chaos Die? The Lord of Chaos is "The Maelstrom" represented by a figure that appears to be unable to maintain a solid form, constantly agitating between a storm, elements of the universe/space, butterflies, decaying/collapsing structures to represent entropy, and a jarring cacophony of sound. There should be -no- harmony in the image. Question 2: What are the die faces of the Chaos Die? FACE 1 - BLANK (Replace the nearest die with the blank, this condition cannot be foreseen) FACE 2 - WATER DROPLET INTO A POND/RIPPLE (Reroll any die at the perimeter of the spread where the ripples have the largest effect) FACE 3 - PENDULUM ATTACHED TO A SECOND PENDULUM (aka DOUBLE COMPOUND PENDULUM) (Reroll the 2 closest die to the core die, let them land where they will) FACE 4 - FRACTAL IMAGE (SNOWFLAKE) Read the spread, then reroll and read again. Both paths are equally possible FACE 5 - LIGHTNING BOLT Reroll die in any season furthest from your current season, the weather is increasingly unpredictable the further away in time it is from now FACE 6 - GALAXY (OR SOMETHING ELSE REPRESENTING THE UNIVERSE) (There is a theory that the universe may have ALWAYS been chaotic. The current universe, expands in all directions. The early universe is theorized to have expanded only in third dimensions and contracted in the third. This is considered to be "red shift" in two directions, and "blue shift" in one, but the contracting direction was not always the same, alternating erratically.) Remove a RED or BLUE die from the spread, whichever is closest to you, and replace with the Chaos die.

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4 months ago

I find kids to be incredibly chaotic. I joke that any company that needs QA testing should hand their product to a room full of toddlers, because if it can break, they will figure out a way to break it. So, maybe a card that's like "Child of Energy" or "Child of Entropy" or something. I like what everyone has been saying about gender fluidity, and to be honest, in gender-neutral clothes, you really can't tell the gender of a little kid. As for the action, one of them could be to close your eyes, reach out and just randomly run them over the dice. This will change the positions of some dice, changes the faces of others, and some will remain the same (the ones you don't touch).

user avatar image for saatananananas
4 months ago

Ooo chaos is interesting because it has so many faces—could it be Tiamat (wild primordial entropy), a Loki or Set (mischief/independence vs strict lawfulness)? But then there’s also the butterfly flapping its wings—mathematical chaos, as opposed to true randomness; the impact of small initial changes producing large changes in long-term outcomes, the chaos that can only be described with probabilities. (Though sadly the chaos butterfly might be too similar to the metamorphosis!!) I like the idea of chaos being mostly out of the hands of the querent—chaos may be initiated, but not controlled. No intentional choosing which dice are impacted or how: the dice determine what comes next. Like, if any other dice touch it they must be rerolled/put away/blindly replaced/flipped. Maybe the chaos-affected dice also affect other dice in turn somehow, a deterministic cascade. Chaos could alter some or all of the readings after it or around it.

user avatar image for Becky
4 months ago

I like the Happy Squirrel or maybe a Cthulu reference--The One Who Dreams maybe? For the 2nd question--waht about a face that lets the questioner choose any one die to change to a face of their choosing?

user avatar image for Sabrina
4 months ago

I would thoroughly enjoy the Happy Squirrel as the Lord of Chaos. One of the faces should be a symbol something like the rewind button on VCR’s and it means you have to roll all the dice again. Another could look like a claw machine and it means you have to let the person being read put the dice wherever and however they please on the mat. Let them literally decide their own fate. If it isn’t already on another one, one face should just be blank or have a question mark and it means you don’t get an explanation for wherever it landed. If you don’t make the squirrel the lord, put him on one of the faces.

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