Dice Exploder's Sam Dunnewold sits down with Takuma Okada, designer of Stewpot!

They chat about Ribbon Drive by Avery Alder and making music playlists as a game mechanic. If you haven't been following this terrific podcast about indie game design and its various influences, start subscribing now.

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